Do your stocks own YOU — or do you own them? This week we tackle identity-driven investing, with a Thomas Chua quote that should make every investor uncomfortable.
Monkey walks through his complete $ODD (Oddity Tech) investment process — from first nibble at $36, to options at the lows, to literally unboxing Spoiled Child collagen live on air. It’s classic Peter Lynch meets beauty influencer.
Plus: Gold smashes through $5,150 while Bitcoin bleeds. VIX at 32 — why Monkey sees opportunity when everyone else sees chaos. An 18-year trendline break that questions US exceptionalism. And a YouTube troll who accidentally gave us great content.
Key topics:
– Options selling in high-VIX environments
– $ODD full investment process: fundamentals to technicals to options to becoming a customer
– Thomas Chua: “Some investors don’t own a stock — the stock owns them”
– Gold vs Bitcoin vs Bonds vs Property: is there ANY store of value?
– 18-year US vs Rest of World trend break
– YouTube troll response: why holding contradictory views is the point
– Spoiled Child product unboxing
Sources:
Thomas Chua (@SteadyCompound): https://x.com/i/status/2030833466506682776
Tickers: $ODD $LINK $BTC $TSLA $GOOGL $AMZN $EOSE $PLTR
Segments:
00:00 Cold Open
01:07 Intro: Bear Markets, Oddity, Gold $5,150 & Is US Exceptionalism Over?
02:34 Vegas Meetup Update & Monkey’s Secret Project
03:44 OpenClaw Migration: Mac Mini Weekend from Hell
04:47 Geopolitical Chaos: What Does It Mean for Investors?
05:09 VIX at 32: Why Monkey Gets EXCITED When Markets Crash
07:00 Badger’s Cash Buffer Strategy (20%+ Cash Position)
08:01 Bitcoin vs Gold: Where Do You Run for Safety?
11:45 Is There ANY True Store of Value?
13:54 Chainlink Deep Dive: Is Monkey an Ostrich?
17:31 Thomas Chua: “Some Investors Don’t Own a Stock — The Stock Owns Them”
21:15 Badger’s Shopify Confession: When the Thesis Changes
22:04 Could Monkey Be the $EOSE Guy? Self-Awareness Check
24:11 The Palantir Identity Trap
26:19 YouTube Troll Response: Contradiction is the Point
30:38 Is This the End of US Exceptionalism? (18-Year Trend Break)
33:13 Has Badger Only Beaten the Market Because of US Tailwinds?
35:28 China, India & AI as a Global Equalizer
39:35 $ODD YouTube Comment: “What Happened to the Technical Trading?”
44:34 Oddity Crash: Meta Algorithm Mismatch Explained
47:18 Monkey’s Oddity Playbook
51:40 Becoming a Customer: $ODD Spoiled Child Unboxing (Live!)
56:11 Aggressive Marketing Tactics: Good Sign or Red Flag?
58:42 Preview: Valleys of Death Framework
01:02:09 Close
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[00:00:00] Kryzstof: when you learn how to become a seller during volatile times, it’s like becoming a casino owner when all of the gamblers show up with a bunch of money in their pockets and are on their fifth bruski. So this is prime, prime cha-ching cash register environment when you know how to use it.
[00:00:21] Luke: Like, for me, my cash is my kind of buffer and my protection. I’m not really using options to try and profit during volatile times
[00:00:30] Kryzstof: I think really all we’re talking about here is volatility is inescapable. And even when you were talking about real estate, you know, I grew up naively thinking real estate is the one thing you could invest in, right? That holds its value.
[00:00:46] Luke: I think that’s like the value of the dialogue and that’s what our Patreons seem to love. like Buddy, if you don’t like that and if you think we’re liars, like go find some other channel to troll, right?
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[00:01:07] Kryzstof: Welcome to the deep investing jungle with your hosts, Luke, the badge Badger. And Christophe the monkey. The monkey. This week, badge the bear is back and you’re gonna be in trouble. The bear is back. Uh, so the markets are, uh, up and down all over the place. We’ll talk about what that means. Monkey has a lot to say about his new obsession oddity, ticker symbol, ODD, and why he’s putting in a lot of work from all different angles.
[00:01:43] Kryzstof: Gold breaches, 5,150, amidst geopolitical chaos while Bitcoin continues to slide. Is crypto indeed a scam? Is it broken and badge? Is this the end of us exceptionalism? Had I do for my first, for my first, uh, host hosting, taking over the intro?
[00:02:12] Luke: Awesome. Very good. Yeah, we’ve we’re sharing the duties. You put like some song lyrics into the intro this week, so I thought You better sing them. Not me. I broke my voice yesterday singing like karaoke in the car.
[00:02:22] Kryzstof: I thought you were unusually enthused on our WhatsApp channel at two in the morning.
[00:02:28] Luke: Yeah. Yes
[00:02:29] Kryzstof: I thought there might’ve been some, some karaoke shenanigans going, going on behind the scenes.
[00:02:34] Luke: We’re having a lot of fun. I’m coming to the end of ski season, so, um, with the gang and now umm, my focus is on Vegas as the next thing. So I’ve got a couple of weeks just me ski out the last few weeks of the season. Get the poker skills tuned and then I’ll be meeting you and a bunch of our lovely Patreons in Las Vegas for the inaugural Wall Street Wildlife Live Patreon Meetup.
[00:02:59] Kryzstof: So it’s really happening.
[00:03:01] Luke: It better be, I spent enough time on making merch. It better be happening.
[00:03:06] Kryzstof: Oh yeah, we got some goodies. We got some good goodies for, for our crew. Can’t wait to see everyone live. Um, yeah, so in, uh, in other news on my end badge, I’ve been working on a secret project of my own as a, as a add-on, and, uh, in integrated part of the Wall Street Wildlife University options course. So I can’t wait to, I haven’t said anything about it yet, but it’s turning out I think, really, really nicely.
[00:03:38] Kryzstof: So I can’t wait to share it with you.
[00:03:40] Luke: Just another, uh, co-creation of you and your best buddy, Claude.
[00:03:44] Kryzstof: it is a co-creation of me and my 20 buddies. I have, I’ve surrounded myself with 15 monitors and, you know, I’m, I’m back in that madness stage. I did actually, technically, I migrated Samantha, who is my open claw from the Amazon web servers to a Mac Mini this weekend,
[00:04:09] Kryzstof: which took me the better part of all weekend, and it was, uh, very painful.
[00:04:17] Kryzstof: They said it was gonna be easy, it was not easy, the migration, but she’s now all mine, all mine.
[00:04:25] Luke: Make sure, uh, you are careful with the data that Samantha has. I, uh, I suggested one possible doomsday scenario when we spoke after the episode last week. Don’t fall out of that.
[00:04:37] Kryzstof: Yeah. Yeah. I just, uh, I gave her all the keys, all the passwords, all the bank accounts, and I said, go, go, go forth and, and make me a rich man
[00:04:47] Luke: Go forth and f me up. Yeah, exactly. Well, uh, while Samantha’s busy potentially effing you up, uh, the world is effing itself up and we are in a yet again, back in a time of wild, chaotic geopolitical instability. So what does this mean for investors?
[00:05:09] Kryzstof: Well, I just wanna start with the, with the obvious point for me as I get, you know, I’ve been thinking about options and nonstop for, for, uh, the better part of a long time now it feels like. When you so, public service announcement, when you actually master the different directions that options can work in, you get excited when the market becomes volatile. I want, I want our listeners to take that in because I imagine most people are not in this camp. They see the futures. Everything is red, everything’s dropping by percentage points. The volatility index right now, badge is at least this morning, was somewhere around 32, which means technically speaking that the market now expects daily moves of 2% when it’s around 16.
[00:06:07] Kryzstof: That 16 equals 1% moves. So 32 equals 2% moves. And one of the main things I teach in the university is that. All of that is literally a measure of options trading. And when you learn how to become a seller during volatile times, it’s like becoming a casino owner when all of the gamblers show up with a bunch of money in their pockets and are on their fifth bruski. So this is prime, prime cha-ching cash register environment when you know how to use it. So public service announcement over, do not let market volatility trick you and think into thinking it’s only down and bad.
[00:07:00] Luke: Good. Great. Good for you and your options buddies, but what about us in us, like boring old stockholders, clinging on? Like, for me, my cash is my kind of buffer and my protection. I’m not really using options to try and profit during volatile times. And like, yeah, I, I don’t invest in commodities. I’m not really interested in the price of oil, but that certainly impacts the rest of the market.
[00:07:29] Luke: Um, I’ve got friends who are gold bugs and they’re, uh, they’re delighted with the trajectory of gold, as you said in the intro, like gold, way above $5,000, like into serious, uh, up territory. And at the same time, like the Dow Jones down over a thousand points, the s and p is now down year to date. So if you’re not using options to protect yourself or even to profit from times like that, it’s probably quite painful time right now as an investor.
[00:08:01] Luke: Oh, and you know, and by the way, you know, for anyone who thought that crypto was gonna protect them, crypto ain’t protecting you. Like Bitcoin is down very seriously. It’s essentially trading like a tech stock while gold continues to appreciate.
[00:08:19] Luke: So yeah, if you’re not a gold bug, where do you run for safety?
[00:08:23] Kryzstof: Badge a couple of things. I noticed our man, beaver posted a couple of things and he was envious, so he was trying to make other investors envious of your cash position, which is what, something that was at 24.7% if memory serves.
[00:08:40] Luke: It was, I bought a, I started buying a little bit of stuff. That’s down a bit, but yeah, it’s, it’s north of 20%.
[00:08:45] Kryzstof: Yeah, I mean that, that’s a really enviable, uh, position to have in a moment like this when everything’s blowing up. So good on you. ’cause that’s really smart. That’s sort of. Uh, yeah. Uh, I, if thinking out loud, if I had mastered options and I had a big cash position, this would be just, this would be, you know, but I’m all outta cash,
[00:09:10] Luke: I mean, because if you rewind, I know, what, six to nine months? That’s when I ago on this podcast, that’s when I started raising cash. And that’s when I started saying things like, you know, I don’t know when the asset is gonna fall out of the market, but I know it will one day. And so, you know, don’t copy what I’m doing, but maybe you want to think about doing the same thing.
[00:09:33] Luke: So, you know, listen to us, we do say some smart shit from time to time, and occasionally we get our timing about right.
[00:09:41] Kryzstof: That’s right. Yes. Back to the crypto stuff first, first thing that came to mind badge is this idea of store value. It feels funny to me in a moment like this. I know that that was the, the, uh, shingle in front of Bitcoin, which as you pointed out, when some, when an asset drops 50%, that theory seems to be null and void. But then I think, well, what asset in the human universe has acted like a store of value without qualification? Gold, right? As per your, I mean, gold is, more volatile than it’s been. I think, I’m trying to say because money is an invention in the story other than hard assets. Do we have anything that could legitimately, legitimately be called store value? By definition, something that really doesn’t change. It’s it’s value. I mean, Bitcoin over the large trajectory is, is a appreciating asset, and it’s done so hugely. I don’t, I don’t, I guess I don’t if I really wanted my money to remain stable. Right? That’s, that’s the, that’s what investors want. Then what, you initially also think bonds, but then bonds had a disastrous year. You right. You thi, you th all the majority of crypto stuff is shenanigan. So that, that’s not what, I mean, that’s not what I talk about when I talk about crypto. So that’s obviously a circus. Silver’s had all these huge, you know, so my question to you I suppose is do do, is there any store of value? Anywhere?
[00:11:45] Luke: Property maybe. Like I’m not a real estate guy. I, I did have a couple of investment properties for a while, but like, it was nothing like passive income. It as a pain in the ass, frankly. Um, so I don’t, now, you know, they’re not making more land as the property guys will say. So I guess that’s a store of value.
[00:12:05] Luke: But, you know, there’s no safe, there’s no place of safety, right.
[00:12:09] Kryzstof: Right. So, and even cash obviously is, uh, is being debased by, depending on what government
[00:12:17] Kryzstof: pre, you know, turn makes more of itself. I guess if we’re gonna make this a little bit of more of a Bitcoin segment, which I’m prepared to do. I would say the problem with Bitcoin recently is that there’s been a lot of backdoor manipulation that we’ve discovered. So that volatility stuff is because there’ve been bad actors involved and we, you know, this is why we can’t have nice things ’cause, ’cause some human being is gonna try to corrupt, corrupt the process. But theoretically I’m still, I’m still holding on badge. I’m saying, because it’s literally a, an asset class that cannot be inflated and has the rare, the scarcity component built into it. Then the ups and downs that I guess are inevitable because markets are volatile. Does not mean that the concept of storing your value in using this asset is void. I don’t know if that, that that’s a contradiction in what I’m saying. I think maybe let me re-say that just because it goes up and down does not mean it ought not to be used as directionally as a store of value over a very long timeframe. I don’t see that argument being invalidated.
[00:13:54] Luke: say I, as I always say, I’m not a crypto guy. Like if I were to try and answer this question like, where, where, where are you safe in like a crisis? And it does come down to like your ability to withstand the volatility, if you can handle the swings. To me, there’s no safer place than in like the price setting companies.
[00:14:16] Luke: What the ones like the, the hyperscalers and the established, you know, the Amazons and the Googles and the companies that provide services that we all continue to need in a crisis and in like volatile times and their stock prices are gonna like plummet along with the crazy wild companies that are gonna fall apart when like macro gets super tough.
[00:14:40] Luke: But these companies are just like, I sort of hesitate to say bulletproof, but they’re incredibly robust and you know, they’re. They, you know, they have survived massive economic downturns in the past, and they’re almost like certain to survive, like the next economic downturn, even if some of them may not be here in 20 years time.
[00:15:01] Luke: You know, that’s, that’s, that’s where I kind of run to.
[00:15:03] Kryzstof: Yeah, I mean technically I think we’re talking about, you know, store value is a theoretical con. And then the practice of what should you invest in It is why the dividend, you know, investor income route is a reasonable one because those kinds of companies will be less volatile over time.
[00:15:22] Kryzstof: I think really all we’re talking about here is volatility is inescapable. And even when you were talking about real estate, you know, I grew up naively thinking real estate is the one thing you could invest in, right? That holds its value. And but anybody that you know, what’s the great mortgage crisis about? Right? Inflate, over inflated real estate values.
[00:15:48] Luke: Right.
[00:15:48] Kryzstof: So there’s nothing right you, there’s really nothing that that does not, or potentially could not drop massive amounts of percent. My point about Bitcoin though is that I suppose, is that despite that it does have this built in scarcity feature, which over time. Should, you know, as long as people believe in it, it should solidify its demand ’cause it can’t be inflated. So as for, so yeah, may, maybe that’s, maybe we’re spinning our, our wheels now.
[00:16:26] Kryzstof: Um, you did mention chain link briefly. I, I, I, I wanna say that for the 20000000000th time crypto is not a useful category anymore. You have a couple of projects that are worth examining and it’s more like software tech. ’cause all of it is code anyway. And when I invest in Chainlink, I do not think I’m investing in crypto.
[00:16:54] Kryzstof: That is not at all what I, it’s, it’s, it does have these incredible security features built in because it’s cryptographically proven. It’s decentralized, but other than that, it’s an upgrade for the future global financial system. You know, that’s not crypto. The way I understand it, the fact that it’s down.
[00:17:18] Kryzstof: Right. That also makes sense because the, the legal framework has not yet been passed. So all, all new things, edge things are being sold.
[00:17:31] Luke: there’s, um. I wanna come back to it later in this episode, but there’s a Thomas Chewer tweet that I’d like to apply to your chain link conviction. But anyway, I’m just
[00:17:43] Luke: putting
[00:17:44] Kryzstof: let’s do it now. Let’s, let’s do it now.
[00:17:47] Luke: Uh, I saw this from Thomas yesterday, I think as Thomas is at Steady Compounding on X. And I really like this tweet. Um, just to read it, if you’re not on the YouTubes, some investors don’t own a stock. The stock owns them. They made it their entire personality and identity. So when the thesis changes, they can’t confront it.
[00:18:09] Luke: Being wrong feels like a personal attack, and he goes on a bit. Um, you know, it’s like the, reminded me of the Brad Pitt quote in Fight Club. You know about like, you don’t own your stuff, your stuff owns. But if you could, if you know, if you, so let’s, well, you know, I said I’m gonna, I’m gonna call you out on Chainlink.
[00:18:27] Luke: I own Chainlink now on the back of your conviction. And, uh, um, do, do you own Chainlink or does it own you? Like, is it now like living rent free in your head and you cannot divest yourself of the idea that it may not be the future of like
[00:18:45] Kryzstof: So you call, you call me an ostrich.
[00:18:48] Luke: Yeah, maybe. Maybe.
[00:18:51] Kryzstof: Uh, good question. Badge. I, uh, let’s see. Let’s see. As I try to ramble my way to an answer, I don’t think it owns me because I continuously check the thesis and the thesis has never been stronger, ever. So in this moment, what we have is, it’s the price that is bad. I feel like there have been many people who have sold and have, uh, call it capitulated. And then there are other rah rah bulls, you know, that are talking about, you know, the way this is gonna take over the world.
[00:19:36] Kryzstof: I don’t think I’m in either camp I’m holding because I’ve done such a stupid amount of research over many years and things are only getting better fundamentally. So selling would be a mistake. That would be a classic buy high, sell low, even though technically I’m up on it, but that, that’s irrelevant. So that’s not an option. I’m not, when was the last time we really talked about it? It’s been several months maybe since, uh, Daniel, our interview with Daniel.
[00:20:11] Luke: Yeah. Yeah.
[00:20:12] Kryzstof: And I know all I’ve been doing is tracking, you know, the public discourse, which is that the bill is now the furthest it’s been in the legislatures house. You know, ’cause their work basically banks there, there’s a lot of negotiation going on with banks because banks, unfortunately, Chainlink is going to cut in, uh, to bank’s profits because what Chainlink enables is more efficient than what banks do.
[00:20:40] Kryzstof: So there’s an obvious fight. but I don’t, yeah, I does that sound to you like this thing owns me or that I’m just monitoring and not panicking and.
[00:20:50] Luke: Yeah. The, to be fair, the latter, like I, I, yeah, I kind of buy the fact that, um, you know, you don’t own it because you own it. You own it because you believe certain things about it. I do, you know, I believe that you are revalidating those things as long as you’re honest with yourself and you really are, you’re not just like, like constantly doing confirmation bias then, then yeah, I guess it’s okay.
[00:21:15] Luke: But it’s, I think it’s a good question. It’s a good comment from Thomas. ’cause we should all, as investors ask ourselves this question, you know, like, do I own Alphabet? Just because like, I’ve became like the alphabet guy years ago and I can’t kind of, you know, divorce myself from that. I was maybe I’ve got some history ’cause I was the Shopify guy for a long time.
[00:21:36] Luke: Even to the point that like other folk on X were like, oh, talk to Luke about Shopify. Um, and now I, you know, I’m no longer a Shopify guy and maybe I will be in the future, but you know, I kind of said, well, like the world changed and the model changed and, you know, I no longer believe that to be a, like a market beating, holding.
[00:21:54] Luke: Turns out I was wrong. It was market beating. But you know, I was able to change my.
[00:21:58] Kryzstof: Yeah, no, this point is great. I think the, the general point is great. If anything, I could be the EO guy.
[00:22:04] Luke: Hmm. Yeah.
[00:22:05] Kryzstof: I mean, because, uh, yeah, I’ve been talking about it for so many years, but as per our last podcast last week, I think, you know, I rewatched it. I think we did a, a really good job in working through the negatives.
[00:22:23] Kryzstof: Now, could I be found guilty of, let’s say, leaning more heavily, weighing the optimistic side more heavily than the bear side? Yes. And that that does come with the territory, that if you really believe in the future of a company, it is harder, I think, to equally weight the bear and bull. So in that sense, I could say I’m guilty, though. Does that mean that I all of a sudden take it personally? If, you know, EOS goes down or management screws up, hell no. I I, you, I was as mad about the, the, you know, with the shenanigans as anybody. So that is a fine line. And in it, it is true, at least in some investing circles, people are now making their names as personalities.
[00:23:14] Luke: Hmm.
[00:23:15] Kryzstof: They’re screwed in many ways, right? The moment things turn, their whole reputations are shattered potentially.
[00:23:23] Kryzstof: Right?
[00:23:25] Luke: yeah. Totally.
[00:23:25] Kryzstof: And actually, you know what, let me say, now that I think of it, there’s another. Habit that I’ve seen recently that I felt irks me. I’ve seen a bunch of people trying to make their name by saying, I bought Palantir when it was 13. Right. That kind of thing. Therefore, everything I say now about all future equities is gonna be, I’m gonna have a hundred baggers left and right, because I’m the guy that found Palantir 13. That’s such a fallacy. That’s such hard, I mean, it’s marketing. Sure. Maybe, maybe they, they found it because they did skillfully, uh, they did do a lot of research.
[00:24:11] Kryzstof: I’m not taking that away from somebody, but to then, but, but they marry it to i the identity piece. I’m the guy that found Palantir. That’s, yeah.
[00:24:24] Luke: Yeah. I mean not, I mean we, maybe we don’t play the game as effectively as most, which is why we’re still a pretty small podcast. Like if we really wanted to, you know, make those kind of wild claims, we probably could. And you know, maybe that would escalate our audience faster and you know, the podcast would become bigger, quicker, but that’s just not the way I want to grow.
[00:24:44] Luke: Like I think you and I are honest investors and we’re honest with our Patreons and with our listeners and we make mistakes and you know, it’s like a lifetime journey. So that’s the way we are. That’s the way we are building and growing our audience kind of ethically, I think.
[00:24:59] Kryzstof: Yeah, it’s true. And you know, pulling back the curtain a little bit, we had a discussion about how to make engaging thumbnails around the especially EOS episode last week. And I think to my credit, you know, some of those click Beatty ones where it was something like, you know, I was calling out EOS for being liars, which is a thing I have to work through in my thought process.
[00:25:21] Kryzstof: But we did not choose to make that in the image because that’s the, that’s the whole marrying. Yeah, that’s, it’s too close to being dishonest for the sake of,
[00:25:31] Luke: I’ve got that Click Bailey one scheduled to go live on YouTube. It’s like tomorrow I think. Should we just deschedule it and fix it? What is that ab? Test it. I want it to
[00:25:41] Kryzstof: oh, you just, you want, oh, you want, you just wanna ab test it. Actually, you know what, Hey, I’m o you you know what? Uh, as long as this segment goes live, right? Where, where I’m saying this is why I’ll be uncomfortable about that kind of marketing gimmick because of the personality things, and then we could, then I’m okay.
[00:26:03] Kryzstof: ’cause there’s the transparency is there, but then I, I would be curious to see just how much better something like that performs over the more. Moderate and thoughtful take so we could run it and then I’ll point people back to this.
[00:26:19] Luke: Okay. That’s fair. That’s fair. That maybe this is a good point to jump into a comment. We did get on the YouTubes a couple of days ago, um, and I’ve, I’ve titled in the docket, I’ve titled this bit Don’t, do not respond to the YouTube trolls. Um, I think let’s just be transparent with it. So we posted like a short about maybe two or three months ago, and it was a conversation you and I were having like a sidebar conversation about Elon Musk and like various holdings.
[00:26:52] Luke: Um. And, uh, and then, yeah, so Chap said, don’t listen to this guy. Look at all the companies Musk has built. This guy is telling you he doesn’t trust, but at the same time, you’re not watching what his hands are doing. He’s buying Tesla, he’s buying SpaceX. This guy is a liar.
[00:27:10] Luke: and I went, I made me a bit furious. I went on the attack and just said like, well, essentially, like there are two of us on this podcast and we have different holdings and we have different opinions.
[00:27:21] Luke: And the value of this podcast is we are kind of transparent in challenging each other and Yeah, like we are two hands. ’cause I, I do own SpaceX. We both own Tesla. If I could buy like boring company in Neuralink and everything else, I’d be buying those too. They’re just not available. Um, and you are entitled to your counter opinion.
[00:27:40] Luke: I think that’s like the value of the dialogue and that’s what our Patreons seem to love. So like Buddy, if you don’t like that and if you think we’re liars, like go find some other channel to troll, right? And you know, go disappear down your own confirmation bias rabbit hole. And don’t seek conflicting opinions ’cause we ain’t for you.
[00:27:59] Kryzstof: Oh man. Oh man. I really don’t like this. Take one. Uh, one, it’s actually for stock like space, uh, like SpaceX and, and Tesla for the idea that any retail, like would somehow you, you know, cause some sort of brand damage. Like, oh, Badger, Badger took off 150 billion off the market cap because he doesn’t trust.
[00:28:28] Kryzstof: Right. That’s just, you know, that’s silly on, on that level.
[00:28:32] Luke: Right.
[00:28:33] Kryzstof: But the other, the other point to the, to counter that is there are bad actors in the financial world where especially with lower liquidity stocks and pumping, like, that’s why pump and dumps get a bad name. Right. And I know personally a bunch of people in this camp where you rah rah, rah, you buy options behind the scene and then your other hand is actually doing something else you’re already selling after.
[00:28:59] Kryzstof: Right. That is, I think e ethically, uh. Challenged to say the best and immoral, you know, uh, to to, to a great extent. So
[00:29:10] Luke: Well, and and actually, actually illegal. Like if, you know, if you do have enough of a Twitter following and you can, if you are able to move like the price, then that is illegal. You know, you, that’s market manipulation and you can go to jail for that.
[00:29:24] Kryzstof: right? So I think in this way, this poster is right to say there are shenanigans that take place and watch out for those kinds of characters. But I find zero contradiction in saying Musk is a weirdo that like says a bunch of stuff that is either factually stretched or outright deceptive and saying, we believe in this company because he’s also one of the world’s, you know, best entrepreneurs of all time, blah, blah, blah. Where’s the, where’s the, where is the lying in that? It’s just the inability to hold two co contradictory views at the same time and getting all, you know, your panties all up in a bunch. When somebody critiques something, you happen not to like, is that what’s going on here?
[00:30:19] Luke: I dunno. Yes. I mean it’s just, it’s a moronic comment. If you, some people, you know, they’re armchair warriors and they wanna sit around and like throw accusations at U View channels and that makes them happy, then fine, you know. Go enjoy like your circle jerk, uh, afternoon being a troll, but whatever. It gave us a good opportunity anyway, so thank you brow logic.
[00:30:38] Luke: ’cause you gave us an opportunity to tell you why you’re wrong and why, you know, why, why we have our, in our listeners best interests at heart.
[00:30:47] Kryzstof: Yeah. I mean, it’s what we, it’s what we do in, in this shop badge. I’ve been, uh, my Jiujitsu game is, is, uh, has been, has been. I’ve been up and up my, uh, my, uh, practice. So if this guy wants, uh, you know, all right. Badge, uh, is this, uh, the end of us exceptionalism I found this fa a fascinating chart, uh, with it shows you for our non YouTubers, starting from 2007, 2008, there’s a line that looks to be going straight down until 20.
[00:31:30] Kryzstof: About year 25, there’s one line drawn, basically showing you that. This line directionally is, is, is, uh, consistently down into the right, basically, uh, from a technical standpoint, you would call that line, showing a resistance channel. And then the, the catalyst here is that as of late 2025 into 2026, that downward channel slope has been breached to the upside.
[00:32:07] Kryzstof: And the, the, the thing being measured basically is, um, the value of non-US stocks versus US stocks. And so merely on the technical front, this is what would be called the breakout, that all of a sudden the buying pressure has reversed a trend going on now for, what is it, 20? Six year 20. What’s the math? Eight. 18 years. 18 years.
[00:32:40] Luke: Excuse me.
[00:32:41] Kryzstof: Uh, and and I for one, find that valuable to
[00:32:45] Luke: it’s interesting. It makes me a little. Frightened, quite honestly. ’cause you know, I may have been, I may have started investing in like the early two thousands, but you know, I was really investing in like US growth stocks from like 2006. That’s when I bought Intuitive Surgical. So actually this chart is essentially my investing career and I’ve beaten the market handily because I’ve been like US focused.
[00:33:13] Luke: Maybe I’ve only beaten the market because like the US has beaten like the rest of the world handily over that same time period.
[00:33:19] Kryzstof: well, I think we have two thesis we could go back to. Badge is, uh, one, this is why we got interested in India.
[00:33:29] Kryzstof: What, what was it like a couple years? The interview we did with the, uh, analyst that lives in India? Our, our listeners should revisit that if they, if they missed it. I think it’s still relevant.
[00:33:41] Kryzstof: There are other pockets of the world where things are seemingly undervalued based on the growth rates. So this does make me interested in checking out different opportunities more than before. And also I still go back to what country on the planet has the most superior tech in this new AI revolution? Meaning the, the rich, you know, like the, the rich tend to get richer and as far as I could tell, there’s only two competitors on the world stage.
[00:34:18] Kryzstof: And so you would kind of have to say the US has lost, its. Technical capacities to, to completely like sell out or, you know, go hunting elsewhere. But.
[00:34:35] Luke: which, when, which I, and which I mean, I suppose kind of clearly isn’t the case. Like you’ve still got some of the world’s greatest tech talent, either in the US or working for US companies, but at the same time, no, the other, you didn’t say the name, but China presumably is what you were thinking as like the two, um, like the two great technological powers here.
[00:34:56] Luke: Um, but, uh, China’s hard to invest in as a outsider to you. You know, you can, you can technically invest there, but to really understand that system, I lived in Hong Kong for a couple of years and. I speak very, very bad. Cantonese, like I feel as a westerner, I feel like I understand at least like Hong Kong.
[00:35:17] Luke: Well, um, do I feel like I understand China? No, not really. Um, uh, and I’ve, I think I’ve made some mistakes in sort of pivoting some of my portfolio to China probably way too early.
[00:35:28] Kryzstof: You know what this might, you know, the conclusion this might, lead me to is that maybe AI adoption by the rest of the world will help them accelerate the rate of their own development, such that the extent to which they are undervalued now starts because of the place where they’re starting from the lower valuation.
[00:35:58] Kryzstof: Then that’s what’s gonna make the relative comparison between the rest of the world and the US. More profitable in the rest of the world, segment AI as the catalyst, if that makes sense. And so I think we should do, maybe we should talk to, you know, the divin dividend investment guys again. Uh, maybe we should hunt around for more global opportunities.
[00:36:24] Kryzstof: You know, I was, I was bouncing around Poland for a little bit, looking for something. Never, never quite, uh, found something that really captive captured me. But at the same time, we have something like Nintendo,
[00:36:37] Luke: Hmm.
[00:36:38] Kryzstof: which, you know, I don’t even know how to classify that. Like, that’s Japanese, obviously Japanese based, uh, but it’s also global and it’s obviously US-centric.
[00:36:49] Kryzstof: So I don’t know, in, in the chart like this, does that, is that team world or is that team us or is that even not, how do.
[00:36:57] Luke: It’s Team world because it’s not on a US index, right? It’s, uh, on the Tokyo Stock Exchange, I think.
[00:37:03] Kryzstof: So technically it’s being measured right
[00:37:06] Kryzstof: in the, yeah. In the world. Yeah.
[00:37:08] Luke: sure. Yeah. It’s like a hard, it’s like I, you know, I’m as a sci-fi techie guy who gets excited about innovation in the future. I find it hard to get excited about stuff outside of America because, you know, anecdotal experience, I do some venture capital stuff, like eight angel investing stuff. Um, one of my more successful investments was like a British startup who had, who had some really interesting kind of, uh, techie capabilities around like 3D visualizations.
[00:37:39] Luke: Um, and uh, and like my investment exited really nicely ’cause they got acquired by STA Snapchat like way back now. Um, and that’s what happens, you know, if you get like a promising tech startup, these American giants, US giants with their huge war chests, they just like. Go out there and they, um, they acquire them for either their, their talent or their technology.
[00:38:05] Luke: And then, you know, the, the, the non-US company is no more, or at least the, you know, the best of the non-US stuff is no more having to deep mind, right? They got acquired by Google and like now absorbed into like, Gemini and the whole kind of, you know, YouTube, uh, algorithms and everything else. So, um, it’s, yeah, so I find it essentially cut to the chase.
[00:38:26] Luke: I find it hard to get excited about investing in tech outside the US because, you know, if it’s really exciting, it’s probably gonna get acquired by US company anyway.
[00:38:36] Kryzstof: Yeah, the us, I mean, all the world leaders would have to really screw the pooch pretty badly to lose the leads they have now.
[00:38:44] Kryzstof: Um, for better or worse, in terms of equality
[00:38:47] Kryzstof: badge,
[00:38:48] Kryzstof: uh, I
[00:38:49] Luke: is it the end of, let’s answer the question. Is it the end of us exceptionalism, or what’s going on? You’re the technical trading guy. You know, your resistance line just been breached.
[00:38:58] Kryzstof: I think I already answered it. So let me restate by saying that breach of that trend line has, instead of making a conclusion like this is now gonna reverse. I’m saying I am now incentivized to pay more attention to the global equities market. And I think that is a more reasonable interpretation of something like a technical breach, which is, is that a good enough answer for you?
[00:39:29] Luke: Yep. Yeah. Yeah. Fair enough. Yep. You, you know, maybe you’ll
[00:39:33] Kryzstof: Okay. Because that’s
[00:39:34] Luke: Sure. Hold on.
[00:39:35] Kryzstof: this is a perfect segue now I think to the next, uh, topic I really wanted to talk about. we received a comment that, oh boy, I’ve been wanting to talk to you about this. Uh, uh, a viewer asked what happened to the technical trading on the oddity?
[00:39:56] Kryzstof: It dumped 50% and immediately I felt like that this is, this is, you could read this question in two very different ways. My, my honest opinion is that this was in intended to be a trollish like question, like that’s, that’s the main read, which is like, let me translate it to saying, oh, you people who do technical analysis, right?
[00:40:25] Kryzstof: You said you drew your lines and you used your crayons and you put your lines here. And lo and behold, next day it’s down 50%. How useless are your crayons now, huh? Right. This is, uh, a little bit of a bug bear for me because, because I think the bias against technical analysis, in part due to a lot of bad actors in the technical analysis world, they interpret the charts as though they are prognostications and like future telling, right?
[00:41:06] Kryzstof: Like, like no different than a witch would, would, you know, around her cauldron, you know, cast spells saying this is how it’s gonna be. But that is a simplistic and naive way of looking at, at what technical analysis does. There is no chart in the world, let me say, for the thousandth time that predicts the future obviously. What technical analysis actually does is it objectively lets you see where there’s supply and demand levels. Historically, it in no way says when a fundamental event happens, like what happened on out of these latest call, that the sellers would not all of a sudden show up and dump the stock because that was in the unknown. So it’s in bad faith if you’re looking at technical analysis in bad faith. The critique really is the legitimate one, is stop pretending like you’re gonna know the future ’cause nobody knows the future. That’s fair. But then when a fundamental event arrives, and of course the in, in this case, the support level w was breached obviously to all time lows for fundamental reasons. I don’t think there’s anybody in their right mind. I would say the technicals never said this was impossible or this wouldn’t happen. All the technicals said were, were the previous line of where bio showed up were, when I drew my yellow line on this chart was around the $32 level historically. So that signaled a pretty decent level to enter given what we knew. Does that sound on this level, does that sound like a fair, uh, assessment of this first level of, of attack?
[00:43:16] Luke: Yeah, like you, I mean, I was the guy saying it was the witches and the cauldrons and the casting, the ruins, and I sat your options course, and at least in cohort one there was like a whole two hour segment on technical analysis. And that kind of turned me around. Like I won’t use it, but I now understand what that, what these lines and charts really mean.
[00:43:38] Luke: And why resistance levels are, you know, they do, they are, they reflect reality in some way. So, yeah, I get it now.
[00:43:48] Kryzstof: Okay, great. So now let me read this quote the second way, which I think is more in good faith. Uh, if, if it was more of a genuine question, like what happened to the technical trading on Oddity, the answer is very briefly to those of you who missed, uh, my, my summary last time. Uh. This company, which I think has absolutely terrific financials, positive margins, positive revenue growth, positive cash flow, blah blah blah, got hit by some kind of call it technical algorithmic mismatch between their advertising partner and how the algorithm was reading their customers.
[00:44:34] Kryzstof: And all of a sudden, uh, the customer acquisition costs went through the roof and the stock basically fell from what I thought was a already cheap level of 32 down to $10, 75 cents or so. And you could see that massive drop on, on the stock, uh, on the chart that we posted now to, to answer the question.
[00:45:02] Kryzstof: What happened was, technically what happened was all the support levels were completely devastated. And the stock was looking for new lows where supply came back online. So new information, new levels of supply and demand. Right Now, here’s what Monkey did, and this is why I wanna, I wanna talk your ear off just a little bit. I think this is a perfect sort of, what’s it called? Uh, hands-on modeling for how I invest. So let me, let me walk you through the process and interrupt me. Badge, uh, at any time that you feel you have a good question. This is one of these stocks that I got curious about it. Some months ago. I did my first level of, uh, research.
[00:45:54] Kryzstof: I read the slide decks I’ve learned about the company and I said, oh, this is interesting. This is like a, a makeup company that’s expanding. Into different, what’s it called? Uh, different segments. So away from just makeup to wellness products to actual dermatological cures for skin conditions. With a fourth brand coming online, they have a AI lab. I was like, ah, interesting. I’m not a makeup guy, but I, I see the business as like, makeup is a worldwide thing, right? I see a lot of potential. So that was step one. Then using my charts and arrows and squigglies, uh, you could see my first banana purchase was around $36 a share. And I bought that specifically at that moment because at that time, that was where I saw the supply coming online and given the strength of the fundamentals, I was like, this is a great value no matter what happens at this point. Then what happened after that is it turns out it dropped even further. So I was wrong. The technicals did not say bear their weight. I felt satisfied though, making that initial, I call it nibble position.
[00:47:18] Kryzstof: right.
[00:47:19] Kryzstof: But, but, and I said this to Patons, I did not yet go big because the fund, because the chart did not warrant it.
[00:47:28] Kryzstof: There was no upward momentum turn. So I was sitting on my hands patient
[00:47:34] Luke: And let’s, let’s, so here’s the question. So like, bring it to life in terms of like the percentage allocation in your portfolio. So in your King of the jungle portfolio, when you want that nibble position. Like is that like, you know, 0.1% allocation or what does it look like?
[00:47:50] Kryzstof: Yeah, it was small. I mean, uh, I bought one share and you know, so that was $36. Yeah, so it was under 1%.
[00:47:58] Luke: Yeah.
[00:48:00] Kryzstof: By far. So it was intended to be, put it on the radar, good value, right? Then technicals actually got a little worse, so I withheld, I wasn’t gonna, this is the mistake people make. Oh, it’s even cheaper, right?
[00:48:13] Kryzstof: But the technicals did not support buying again. So I waited, and then what happened was the events of last week and why I’m now, uh, why I spent many of my previous days looking even deeper because the stock sells off. You could see it on the chart, right? Drops massively. I think in total like 70%, and I came to the conclusion that this is a short term ish problem, technical in nature that will be resolved. Then few days after that, the CEO actually buys a bunch of shares, plus they also have a hundred million in share buyback program. So I said with these kinds of, uh, call it confirmations, I started using the technicals again to the positive. And you could see that I actually draw Drew two. If you zoom in on your YouTubes, I actually drew two pink lines.
[00:49:16] Kryzstof: So you could see two pink lines that are the volume average weighted price. And this is what I teach in the Options University course. This is the most accurate indicator of exactly where the buying and selling pressure is. And so when that indicator, when the, when the price actually started moving above the lows, that told me, at least in that moment, that now this is where the buyers are legitimately showing up. So I had my first call it. Technical reason to say this, if I really believe the fundamental story would be the perfect place to get aggressive because the momentum shifted. So I bought my first call option. I bought a call option expiring in October at, uh, strike price of $15. I’m actually gonna make a video about this, by the way.
[00:50:14] Kryzstof: I just haven’t gotten around to it, so I’ll get into more of the details. But then the next thing happened, uh, that was still risky. That was still, if you look at this chart, that’s still, you could see the price was going above the bottom pink line, but it was still below the second pink line, which is connected to the day of the big drop. But now, officially, that second pink line has been breached. And that tells me now for those who are less risk averse. The buying pressure is now legitimately, um, visible. And so even though you have, I’m now sitting on like 30% gains from that buy on the low. But again, that was still risky. Anybody interested in the story now has a much safer point of entry because the technicals from the lows are in their favor. So that’s kind of I, so I talked about how I got interested. I talked about studying the fundamentals. I talked about now using the charts right, and how they help me make this options decision. But the fourth part remains, which I think is maybe the fun part, we don’t talk about this much, right? But now that I’m getting heavier invested, I guess oddity now because I bought the options badge, I guess that makes it my sixth largest position in King of the Jungle.
[00:51:40] Kryzstof: ’cause that one option is now close to $400 or so. In value. I’m like, I now am bumping this company to the, to the, call it the, the top ranks of my, I gotta really know this thing inside and out. So, you know what I did?
[00:52:01] Kryzstof: I
[00:52:01] Luke: Hey.
[00:52:03] Kryzstof: bought me, I bought me, I bought me some, uh, some, some stuff. I’m, I’m getting, I’m getting research.
[00:52:11] Kryzstof: I have not actually opened this box yet.
[00:52:13] Luke: You do unboxing videos are popular on YouTube.
[00:52:17] Kryzstof: yeah. So we’re, we’ll make a se a segment of this. So this is the, this is perfect for Monkey ’cause their brand is called Spoiled Child.
[00:52:25] Luke: Cool.
[00:52:25] Kryzstof: And what is monkey, if not a spoiled, uh, spoiled primate. So this is badge. What I got me. I’m gonna test, I’m gonna test one of their products and what do I get?
[00:52:38] Kryzstof: I got me, this is what, I guess what it looks like. Spoiled child. And this is. This is, if you could read that.
[00:52:47] Luke: The power of collagen.
[00:52:49] Kryzstof: So what’s the promise here? What’s monkey gonna do? He’s gonna have, he’s gonna have, uh, more beautiful skin, uh, minimizes the wrinkles I’ve been noticing. Look at these things creeping in, right? So the wrinkles will be gone.
[00:53:02] Kryzstof: I’m gonna have a healthy body. My joints and bones are no longer gonna creak. My hair is going to, my hair is gonna be glowing. And, uh, oh, my nail growth. Great. my toenail in jiujitsu. So that’ll get healed. And I’m gonna have amazing gut health. Who doesn’t want all, who doesn’t want all of that?
[00:53:23] Luke: Miracle. Miracle Cure. Okay.
[00:53:27] Kryzstof: And let’s see what else we got. It seems like I, oh, look at this, uh, shot glass with which to take the collagen apparently.
[00:53:38] Luke: Okay. All right. Well, you just literally just drinking raw collagen. What the hell? Hmm. I’m becoming more skeptical about this company as you open this box.
[00:53:53] Kryzstof: uh, and uh, and I guess we have, uh, well this is, oh yeah. And it’s uh, in a little mango flavor extract
[00:54:04] Luke: Mango collagen. Alright, uh, well look, we’ll be monitoring you now with your new fancy camera. We’ll be able to see the glowingness of your fur and your skin over the next few weeks.
[00:54:14] Kryzstof: yes indeed. So anyway, but uh, you know, in the investing, what’s it called in the investing round trip, I think that kind of summarizes a pretty good my how I do
[00:54:23] Kryzstof: things, research, take a nibble, watch the valuations, learn then, then strike when there’s a real potential asymmetric gap. Continue learning by getting serious about
[00:54:42] Luke: yeah and like, just to say it clearly, like your research process isn’t just looking at slide decks and listening to other podcasts and like earnings calls, it’s actually becoming a customer of the company, like buying its products, using its services.
[00:54:59] Luke: And that might be like anecdotal experience, but it’s still incredibly valuable. ’cause then you’ve got your finger on the pulse of what this company is actually doing.
[00:55:09] Kryzstof: There’s that, uh, this is Peter Lynch’s playbook, by the way, for those of you who have not read that, it’s a great introductory book, but you know what else I discovered? Badge. This is maybe where the real, uh, alpha lies in. I don’t know how you feel about this, but because I did this for experimental reasons, I signed up, you know, for, I put my email in and I said, I put my phone number in because they gave me a 20% discount or something, and I’ve noticed that their marketing tactics are very aggressive.
[00:55:42] Kryzstof: Like I’m getting several messages on my via text now. I’m getting a bunch of emails. And I suppose for some people that would be a turnoff. Like for me that is a legitimate turnoff. Um, but I wonder, you know, if the crisis is, in fact, you know, the, the finding customers, keeping customer, not, not keeping, ’cause they have a good retention rate.
[00:56:11] Kryzstof: But I wonder to what extent this is actually a, a good sign if you’re, if you’re selling, what do you think?
[00:56:20] Luke: Yeah, like if I remember your summary of the problem they had, it was ’cause like the meta algorithm changed and then suddenly like their cost of customer acquisition went through the roof and like the whole. Like the, the business model suddenly was looking in jeopardy, like was it profitable? So, you know, you are a customer, so they don’t have to acquire you, they don’t wanna lose you as a customer.
[00:56:45] Luke: Um, but they can direct market to you. And like I would be, I’d find it a bit squi squirmy if like companies I was a user of were sending me like SMS messages. That would be like, what the hell? Like, get off that channel.
[00:56:58] Kryzstof: Well, I signed up for it to, you know?
[00:57:00] Luke: yeah, yeah, yeah. Totally. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. so, but as an investor, maybe that is a, like, you know, you’re not just a customer, you’re a customer and you’re an investor, so you probably need to stay signed up to that stuff just to see what it all feels like and it helps inform your view of that specific problem they had.
[00:57:18] Kryzstof: Right. That’s what I’m, yeah, that’s what I’m saying. Uh, knowing how aggressive they are in their marketing.
[00:57:23] Kryzstof: As a person. I don’t like that, but because this was free for me, by the way, I didn’t mention this. This is their model. This is why I didn’t pay for any of this yet.
[00:57:33] Kryzstof: This is why this is the whole thesis.
[00:57:35] Kryzstof: It’s a tribe. They have the tribe before you buy. Then all of a sudden that got demoted as a good, uh, strategy by meta. But in fact, most of their customers that try actually end up customers for the long term because I think they are so aggressive in, and you know, I, this is the weird thing, this is a whole nother tangent, but you know, during the Motley Fool days of like the peak, what I call peak motley fool days, the way they would market their services to people I thought was so over the top aggressive and bizarre, like 20 page long emails about, but apparently. You know, like it’s an effective thing, sort of like thumbnails on YouTube, you know, stupid faces, get people to watch it. This has kind of given me a little bit of that flavor, like, okay, I want my company to do this because, you know, if it’s going to create more buck. So, I don’t know. I’m, I’m, I guess I’m a little bit ambivalent, but I, I appreciate what they’re trying to do.
[00:58:42] Kryzstof: So I have a
[00:58:43] Kryzstof: little
[00:58:43] Luke: Cool.
[00:58:44] Kryzstof: hands-on confidence.
[00:58:46] Luke: like ultimately it’s gonna come down to the effectiveness of the products, right? Whether they, you know, even if they don’t make your skin glowier and your fur like Glossier, if you feel like that might be the case, even if objectively if you know, put a spectrometer to your face and there’s no difference, if you feel like they’re making you look better, which might be like placebo effect, then the company will probably be successful.
[00:59:13] Luke: And for some part of that is like the marketing and the shot glass and the mango, you know, gunk.
[00:59:18] Luke: And if you feel, yeah. And but, and if you feel like actually these products are doing nothing for me, then the company’s probably gonna be unsuccessful. ’cause you know, customers won’t hang around long enough.
[00:59:27] Kryzstof: Hey, badge. I’m gonna roll into Vegas with, with, with diamonds and gold. Everything’s gonna be glowing, and then that’s gonna make you buy shares in, in spaced ticker ODD, the next coming. But anyway, I’m excited. Uh, check out our Patreon, uh, for, uh, the video. I’m gonna reto, uh, record soonish about the more specific details on how I chose this particular option, uh, contract, which, uh, is so far, so good.
[01:00:04] Luke: Alright, very good. Um, well we look, we’re up on an hour, um, maybe we should wrap it up here, but there is, like, you dropped a really cool graphic into the show notes and I think we should do justice to it and pick it up in next week’s episode 1 24. Um, but, uh, I would like to talk about, um, your framework you shared.
[01:00:25] Luke: For like, the different valleys of death that companies face as they go from like an idea through to like full out, full on, like commercialization and profitability. So let’s, uh, let’s explore that next week.
[01:00:39] Kryzstof: Yeah, that’s a nice, nice preview teaser for, for our listeners. So, badge, uh, I guess a shout out to all our Patreons. That community continues to astound me with Its with it, with its insights and its comradery. Check us. Shout out patreon.com/wall Street Wildlife, our friends at fiscal ai. Why don’t you tell our listeners about.
[01:01:03] Luke: Yeah. I like, I drew my Bitcoin versus gold graphic today with fiscal do ai, uh, that they’re, they’re improving the platform rapidly. I’ve seen some, uh, some really exciting tweets from their founder, Braden on X, about like a whole bunch of product capabilities. Uh, the platform is getting better and better week by week almost.
[01:01:23] Luke: Um. But already, you know, for some time it’s been like my one stop shop for financial data. Um, the company specific segment and KPI data I find invaluable. Save me digging into earnings reports to like, I used to have to like draw my own charts and plot my own data of, you know, like, I know Tesla, like model y sales or whatever.
[01:01:46] Luke: It wasn’t that it was like some other stuff. fiscal.ai, do it all for you. Um, if you sign up with our affiliate link for fiscal.ai/wildlife, you’ll get two weeks free of fiscal Pro. Don’t even need a credit card and a 15% discount if you upgrade. So yeah, go check it out. Fiscal ai slash wildlife
[01:02:09] Kryzstof: Badge. Are we ready to become beasts of investors?
[01:02:13] Luke: handsome collagen glowing beasts. Our journey starts here.
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